Curse

natus · Jun 12, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

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Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Take that and make it a ranged Bone Dragon, I would imagine it is an elite that only allows you to use him and no other minions.

What if you needed minions to create it..

Say.
Animate Bone Dragon.
Destroy 6 allied minions, conjure level [something]...[something] Bone Dragon.
Bone Dragon has ranged attacks.
takes up 2 minion slots.

TomD22 · Jun 12, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

They're really cool ideas...it would be great to do stuff like that BUT:

It really does make an MM necro into his own one-man-army (as if MM's didn't do this well enough already) - i mean, he can summon his own monks, his own damage dealers, his own defensive and offensive casters - so long as he can get the first kill and the first corpse to get things rolling then he really doesn't need a party or henchmen at all 'cos he just summons his own. So for reasons of balance, i'd say, no. Shame though, 'cos it would be cool.

gabrial heart · Jun 12, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

So, your basically proposing making an mm stronger? Once an mm has bodies he/she is already a death dealing machine. Let's just say that you can run through the whole game (minus one or two missions) with an mm pretty darn quick.

BahamutKaiser · Jun 12, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28

I think your vastly overlooking the power of a bone dragon, at least a fully functional bone dragon. Bone Dragon in itself is a Ranger class undead unit, and it uses Choking Gas. In all normacy, a real bone dragon summoning shouldn't exsist, but if your summoning anything powerful it should simply take all minion slots. Like said before, unless they change it around so that Animate Bone Minions only counts for 1 minion slot of every 2 summoned, it isn't right. having stronger minions can come with other delimiters rather than taking multiple slots.

As for my pervious idea for summoning a bone dragon, I perviously suggested that there be an Elite Enchantment which causes a Bone Dragon to spawn out of your own corpse if you die. In this way it would only work if you die, and it would only continue to exsist til your ressurection. This way you can gain control of a fully armed and high level Bone Dragon, and take direct control of using the Bone Dragon with all its skills when you die.

They could make Minions which cost larger portions of your minion pool in order to justify better minions, but there is already a huge difference between Bone Minion, Vampiric Horror, and Bone Fiend, under these pretenses, Vampiric Horror should take up 2 slots, and so should Bone Fiend, because they are clearly as effective as 2 bone minions. What your really going to end up is further imparament of the MM build with a few fancy new Undead additions, it is better to work around the exsisting constraints then to make up new ones which will ultimately reduce the MM capacity even more.